And They Blinked
Dan
responds to my post earlier that his critique of Dobson, et al. for being an unelected official who has undue influence over Right-wing politicians in his attempts to create a theocratic regime is equivalent to criticizing Ralph Neas for doing the same in order to create a socialist paradise.
Dan writes:
First of all, People for the American Way doesn't advocate socialism and Gene knows that. If Gene doesn't think that Messrs. Dobson, Weyrich et al. advocate theocracy, in the literal sense of reciprocal religious control of government and government control of religion, I don't think he really gets the religious right at all.
Well, color me stupid, but I have not heard a single statement from Dobson, Weyrich, et al. advocating theocracy, just as PFAW doesn't explicitly advocate socialism. That was the entire point of my post: the same hyperbolic hysteria Dan espouses about Wyrich/Dobson could as easily be used against PFAW. If Dan can provide me a quote where Weyrich, Dobson, et al. in fact said, that there should either be "a law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," I would reconsider my position.
Dan then argues that PFAW is categorically different than the supposed "theocrats":
Moreover, even if People for the American Way (or some hypothetical interest group, if that helps) did push for state control of the means of industrial production, it would belong to the same political category as any other economic special interest. No so with the theocrats. The Constitution itself creates a specific prohibition on government endorsement of religion, and for good reason.
Socialism, in my view, would be a clear violation of the Ninth Amendment which says,
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Would not the imposition of a government monopoly on certain economic activities and the resulting prohibition of private practices of said economic activity not be a construal of the denial or disparagement of other rights retained by the people?
So, suppose even that socialism is a bad example. However, take gun control for instance. The PFAW is on record opposing the individual right to gun ownership, a clear violation of the Second Amendment (even the ultra-liberal Lawrence Tribe thinks that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to gun ownership). Furthermore, the PFAW is on record supporting campaign finance laws, which are also clear violations of free speech protections of the First Amendment.
So who's on record as being on the brink of overturning important Constitutional protections here?
The point here is that actually, neither Weyrich/Dobson nor Neas/PFAW actually want to completely OVERTURN various Constitutional protections. Rather, they want their interpretation of the Constitutional protection to win out. What's wrong with that? Just because Weyrich/Dobson think that we should have school vouchers for parochial schools and protect prayer in public schools does not mean that they are in favor of overturning the First Amendment. While PFAW comes close in their fascist interpretation of the Second Amendment, I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and say that they are not really for overturning the Second Amendment, just for making it meaningless, since we don't have state militias anymore (and don't even try the National Guard argument... the NG is significantly controlled by the feds).
So, stop your hyperbole.